The Plot Hole: Never once, during his entire relationship with Cole Sear (Haley Joel Osmont) does Dr Malcolm Crowe (Bruce Willis) wonder why nobody except the kid ever talks to him.
Even when Cole tells him he can see dead people who don't know they're dead.
Reasonable Explanation: Arguably, Cole's line hand-waves over the cracks in logic by focussing on the psychological implications of Malcolm's limbo. In other words, the poor fella's in serious denial.
Even so, the doc's marriage to Anna (Olivia Williams) must have been a real bore if he thinks sitting in silence during dinner is normal.
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Sep 20th 2010, 9:41
Face/Off: no, Troy-as-Archer stll has those minions later in the film. He must pay them really well. Or they're scared of him. Or both.
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Sep 20th 2010, 9:48
Surprised that recent internet meme Inception didn't make it in. Why *doesn't* Michael Caine just fly Leo's kids to France??? Everything else makes sense in that movie, but honestly...
Sep 20th 2010, 11:02
Who the hell is Martha McFly?
Sep 20th 2010, 11:10
Inception is easy - because that wouldn't solve anything. It'd look dead suspicious, Cobb would still be on the run and now he'd be putting his kids in danger too.
Flightplan always annoyed me. The entire plot of the movie hinges on the fact that no one else on the packed passenger plane noticed that Jodie Foster boards with her little girl.
All it'd take is for one person to say 'She's not crazy, I saw her with her kid' and the whole thing comes falling down. Nice one Sarsgaard, you idiot.
Also, Sean Bean's pilot apparently has the clearance to request a $50 million ransom.
Good article, chaps.
Sep 20th 2010, 11:12
Ooh ooh, there's a good one in BTTF 3 as well.
Marty's ancestor Seamus is shacked up with his wife, who looks suspiciously like Lea Thompson too, which basically means the McFlys have been unknowingly committing incest all these years.
Honestly though, finding plot holes in Back To The Future - or any tmie travel movie for that matter - really is like shooting fish in a barrel. All evil characters tend to travel back just far enough so the person they want to kill is old enough to defend themselves. Not, say, three months old and covered in their own s**t.
Sep 20th 2010, 11:39
I always assumed that the "S.W.A.T" team brought the bags of call girl ads in with them as "equipment" thats why no one asked any questions about why they were carrying big bags out. I think the bigger plot hole is how they intercepted the call for police from a mobile phone that must have been one of thousands in the casino that night even more because of the fight and possibly all making calls trying to get their cash back for the fight that apparently never happened. Its not like it was Bennedicts phone either and for all they knew he could have used one of hundreds of phones.
Reasonable Explanation: That phone had a direct line with the L.V.P.D
Sep 20th 2010, 12:02
Also in The Dark Knight - Bruce Wayne gets on the plane to Hong Kong (after jumping off the boat with the ballet) in his civilian guise but when they sky hook him and Lau off the building, he's in his bat suit. Surely the aeroplane pilot would put two and two together...?
Sep 20th 2010, 12:09
With the Batman/Joker (Keaton/Nicholson) hole... maybe Joker only ever shot a couple in front of their son ONCE, and so clearly remembers the incident?
Sep 20th 2010, 12:33
HOLD ON A MINUTE...How could you leave out the plot holes in indiana jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull if you are going to include the original good indy films in this list how could you miss this one out. The part were indy was in the refrigrator didn't make any sense
firstly there is no way a refrigrator could survive a nuclear explosion if it did the odds are higly unlikly that indy would come out of the refrigrator alive and unharmed he would have had to broken something falling to earth in a refrigator from the height it was in the air. Secondly how the hell did he get out of that refrigator wasn't it one of those ones that closes from the outside even so the heat from explosion would have cooked him from the inside like a microwave.
STEVEN SPIELBERG HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME!!!
Sep 20th 2010, 14:36
The flaw with starwars is, the so called prophecy is "The chosen one will bring balance to the force". How does destroying or defeating the dark side balance out the force? Surely you need light and dark to maintain a balance. Destroying the dark side, is not creating balance.
If you really want to spot the flaws go to Abridged Scripts, my man rod hilton really exposes Lucas in his glory
Sep 20th 2010, 15:33
Sarlaac: "Who's Martha McFly?"
Y'know, George and Martha. The couple from that film. Y'know... Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Damn, wrong film. Must have snuck into my brain. Head duly hung in shame.
Sep 20th 2010, 15:53
The Shawshank Redemption might not have a plot hole, when we see Andy digging the hole, underneath the Rita Hayworth poster, it's only attached at the top, he just had to lift it to get underneath. So what if the Raquel Welch poster was only attached at the top? All Andy would have to do is hold it up while he crawled into the hole, and when he was fully inside the poster would have just fallen back into place.
Sep 20th 2010, 16:05
Hang on! The huge Plothole in The Matrix is that you need two people to get into the matrix - the one that goes in and someone to get them in and out.
How does Cypher get in to strike a deal with Agent Smith without anyone else knowing?
Sep 20th 2010, 18:15
YOu missed the most famous one, LOTR trilogy, as repeated in many a comedy and spoof..Why walk all the way when you can use a little distraction and some big F.Off eagles to drop the little bling inside the volcano? Check out 'how it should of ended' on youtube...the inception one is funny!
Sep 20th 2010, 18:51
Biggest plot hole ever: Terminator
Macjines send terminator back to kill John Connor so Kyle Reese is sent back and becomes Johns dad, SO ITS SKYNETS FAULT THAT JOHN EXISTS IN THE FIRST PLACE
Plus Indy 4, the whole fridge thing, my biggest problem is that shouldnt hundreds of fridges be flying through the air, rather than just the one Indy is in. ADUUUUUR
Sep 20th 2010, 19:30
Facepalm for TotalFilm when it comes to the Vertigo plot hole.
Would've thought a film website and magazine would have heard of the term 'the icebox scene'.
Sep 21st 2010, 14:53
You missed the biggest plot hole in back to the future 2: When the Doc takes Marty top the future, he wouldn't exist again until he reappears in the future. Are there 2 Martys??
Unless in that time line it is implicated that Doc will bring back Marty back to the same point in which he will exist in the future as twice.
A jumble of wibly-wobly timey wimey stuff
Sep 21st 2010, 15:06
I wrote that horribly
Sep 21st 2010, 15:43
Im sure theres one in Donnie Darko but im not touching it !
Sep 21st 2010, 15:56
The reasonable answer for the sixth sense is M night is being coy. Bruce only 'exists' when we see him, flickering off and on like other ghosts. He doesn't remember this of course, like other ghosts, until HJO prods him into realising his condition. If M night had shown us before or after the scenes the massive twist wouldn't be one....
Sep 21st 2010, 18:38
Even BIGGER plot hole in BACK TO THE FUTURE II:
If Marty leaves the 'present' - being 1985 - then every moment in the future from that point on is a reality in which he did not stick around to age and get older. How can he and Jennifer run into an older version of themselves, when they left for the future? They are no longer there to live and get older.
Sep 21st 2010, 19:36
CODE3012 says "YOu missed the most famous one, LOTR trilogy, as repeated in many a comedy and spoof..Why walk all the way when you can use a little distraction and some big F.Off eagles to drop the little bling inside the volcano?"
Because it isn't a plot hole and the only people that think it is completely lack common sense or didn't pay any attention to the story.
Too bad we didn't have you coming up with strategies in WW2, you probably would have made a brilliant plan like creating a distraction and then using a plane to drop someone off at Hitler's Eagle Nest to shoot him.
Sep 21st 2010, 19:54
You could have done more with Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade! every single test is flawed, the 1st one was avoided if "the penitent man" kneels but then there are like two more blades that no one else had a clue about!
Then the one with the letters is flawed because a mistake here clears the mistaken letter for everyone to come later.
And the leap of faith is, of course, silly, as it could only work under perfect illumination, a single and precise viewpoint and would have gathered dust for hundreds of years…
Sep 21st 2010, 21:59
"a single and precise viewpoint and would have gathered dust for hundreds of years…"
Duh, the knight swept it off. Gotta give him something to do for all that time.
Sep 21st 2010, 22:01
In The Sixth Sense, the kid says that the ghosts only see what they want to see, I think this explains away that plot hole. But there is a bigger plot hole, in my opinion, the kid got cold and scared and avoided the ghosts, why didn't this ever happen with Bruce Willis' ghost? did he not know he was a ghost?
Sep 21st 2010, 23:51
n The Sixth Sense, the kid says that the ghosts only see what they want to see, I think this explains away that plot hole. But there is a bigger plot hole, in my opinion, the kid got cold and scared and avoided the ghosts, why didn't this ever happen with Bruce Willis' ghost? did he not know he was a ghost?
Actually, to me, that's one of the most brilliant things about the movie to me; if you watch Haley Joel Osment's performance, you'll notice that he did get all cold and scared and looked at Bruce Willis all crazy. You think he's scared because of what he's telling him, but if you watch it and know what's really going on, you'll see that he does act scared and weird around Bruce Willis, it's just that during the first viewing, you don't think too much about that, you think he's scared because of the (other)ghosts he's telling Bruce Willis about, you know what I mean?
Sep 22nd 2010, 1:24
The Matrix has the biggest plot hole in the history of film and it's not even the one you mentioned. Every other animal on the planet turns food into free energy just like humans do; actually, all life does. In fact, deep-sea diving robots use microbial fuel cells that utilize chemoautotrophs that don't require sunlight or organic polymers. Microbes don't revolt and wouldn't require a matrix, which would just lower the machines' energy needs that much more.
Sep 22nd 2010, 2:37
I was 9 when Gremlins came out and I didn't get the whole "don't feed after midnight" thing. No instructions whatsoever on when its safe to feed them. Thanks for nothing mister. Do their body clocks reset at, like, midday or what? UNLESS ... the old wanted to screw with the kid and have the gremlins infest the town.
The Sixth Sense: Bruce Willis gets the kid to talk to him because he is (was?) a CHILD psych! Plus, he doesn't get all scary and weird like all the other ghosts that the kid's seen before.
Sep 22nd 2010, 3:54
Here's one that always bothers me. In The Prestige, the big reveal is that Christian Bale's character was able to perform his transportation trick with the help of an identical twin. Hugh Jackman doesn't have an identical twin, so he has to find a much crazier method.
Hold on, though, Jackman DOES have an identical twin, the english drunk at the bar whom they clean up. However none of the characters are at all amazed by the lucky stroke of coincidence of finding one's exact double, surely his identical twin, halfway around the world in a pub across the street from where Jackman performs.
You'd think some tearful reunion hug, or a few adoption questions might have been asked.
Sep 22nd 2010, 5:52
georgecauldron, you, unfortunately, like myself when first watching the prestige, have fallen for the hidden double trick.
The big secret is not an identical twin, it is the CLONE that christian bale has already used TESLA'S MACHINE to create. The proof of this is that hugh jackman's character demands tesla build a machine that "he'd already built for another magician", obviously meaning christian bale, since he is the only other magician he cares about beating. The other proof is that christian bale writes down "tesla" as being the key to his trick.
Therefore, hugh jackman attempts to use this "crazy method" only because christian bale already did it. The reason that jackman fails is simply because bale used the machine more smartly than jackman.
Sep 22nd 2010, 5:55
Here's another one about District 9 (which I loved): If all the surviving aliens are worker drones without any ability to take the initiative, then how come there are a few running around collecting alien fuel and hiding the shuttlecraft/command pod. Why not rally the rest of the refugees and start a war with all the stockpiled weapons?
Maybe they're only middle-management aliens with some initiative but no command ability? Maybe the rest of the surviving aliens are too far gone to be useful? Maybe its just a film and we should all get back to work?
Sep 22nd 2010, 18:31
KobeNash1234 you may be right on that, I'd have to watch again.
However that still doesn't explain the fact that Hugh Jackman does indeed already have an identical twin, clone or not: the drunken "lookalike" they hire. As both characters (the magician and the lookalike) are both played by Hugh Jackman, they are identical in appearance, yet no one in the movie, certainly not the twins themselves, thinks they may have been seperated at birth.
Takes me right out of the film, every time I watch it, which is why I consider it to be among Nolan's lesser works. There must have been some sort of real life Hugh Jackman lookalike they could've found.
Sep 22nd 2010, 18:54
From the standpoint of theoretical physics, most time travel movies are vastly flawed- unless it involves ONLY traveling to the future.
Anyway- What about after Batman rescues Rachel from falling to her death in The Dark Knight? The movie just cuts away and moves on like nothing happen. Uh, wasn't The Joker still at the party? Are just supposed to assume he told everybody to have a nice day, and left? Not having killed anybody? I've seen some people say he left because Harvey Dent wasn't there- and? Isn't he a terrorist? Why WOULDN'T he take the opportunity to kill a rich people at a party?
Sep 22nd 2010, 20:30
Well done BStew, it must take a real talent to credit the wrong person with a different post...Lets hope you don't work for the Royal Mail. :D
Sep 22nd 2010, 21:37
Correct me if I'm wrong but why would Darth Vader look for children he didn't even know he had? The planet is located on the outer rims where the republic/empire has little interest. Hell even repulic money isn't good there so that sounds pretty far from the empire and a good place to hide a kid to me. Also the Emperor tells vader that he killed his wife so why would he look for children he didn't know he had. Also your Avatar plot hole, she would not have been executed or court martialed because they were mercenaries/ex-military hired by the company, not military. She would have just been fired, but maybe she belonged to a good union.
Also Terminator: Salvation has one of the biggest plot holes I've ever seen. The machines capture Kyle Reese because they know he becomes John Conners father, and they know this will cause John Conner to try and come save him. Now all they had to do was have their harvester give Kyle a little squeeze when he picked him up and "p**f" no more John Conner. Why try to through all of that to kill John when all they had to do was kill Kyle and John would never have existed?
Sep 22nd 2010, 21:47
Okay the emperor told Vader he killed his wife so why would he look for kids he didn't even know he had? Also the planet is on the outer rims far away from the interest of the republic/empire, even republic money isn't accepted there, so why would the empire find him there?
Also in Avatar they are not a military organization. They were mercenaries/ex-military hired by the company. So she would not have been executed or court martialed, just fired. And maybe she had a good union?
Terminator:Salvation has a huge plot hole. They want to capture Kyle because they know he's John Conner's father and John will come to save him so they can set a trap for John. So why didn't the machines just kill Kyle and John would never have existed? They Would have saved themselves a lot of trouble.
Sep 22nd 2010, 21:48
okay it took a real long time for my original post to get posted (10 mins!)so I thought it didn't go through..
Sep 22nd 2010, 23:27
In the movie, Ghost, Patrick Swayze cannot make contact with Demi Moore because he has to learn how to make physical contact with objects; however, somehow, he can walk on the ground and climb stairs!
Sep 23rd 2010, 8:11
The movie "Law Abiding Citizen" has more plot holes than you could shake five sticks at. It's also a terrible movie, which maybe makes it too easy.
After Gerard Butler's character somehow manages to alter the chemicals in the lethal injection being administered to an execution victim in a state penitentiary, you'd think the FBI might drop in. Maybe, maybe not.
Certainly after DA's and judges start dropping like flies, the FBI might decide to step in and handle things. Instead the mayor turns to Jamie Foxx's district attorney character and tells him he had better find a way to stop Butler, as if it was Foxx's mess to clean up. She then gives him a promotion. Baffling.
Of course then there's Butler's magical ability to disappear from his solitary confinement cell, in a maximum security prison that is suprisingly easy to drill holes into from nearby industrial properties. Several holes infact, with nary a soul noticing either the drilling of the holes, or Butler's frequent diappearance. He's even got meticulously timed murders to commit, and he's the prime suspect in all of them. You'd think a gaurd or two might be deployed to keep an eye on him.
And then of course there's Butler's baffling American accent, which seems a plot hole in and of itself...
Sep 23rd 2010, 16:36
Jurassic Park: was the t-rex hiding in the tree?
a goat came out of the ground. the t-rex ate it then steps thru the deactivated fence. 5 mins later it pushes the truck over a HUGE DROP into a tree. this is the same spot from whence it came, no?
Sep 23rd 2010, 22:41
@georgecauldron you're right about Law abiding Citizen, it was horrible. It bothered me that they delcared marshall law in the movie. Why would you declare marshall law when the killer is only targetting specific public officials? The public wasn't in danger, wouldn't it be more beneficial to just allocate resources to protect suspected targets? The whole movie made no sense! That movie is a plot black hole that sucks in all logic never to me seen again.
Sep 24th 2010, 18:28
One plot hole that bugs me is the Flintstones movie. They choose to promote the guy who scores the HIGHEST on the test to use him as a pawn in their embezzling scheme. Wouldn't they want to choose the guy who scores the lowest? They needed an idiot, yet their plan is to hire the smartest guy.
Sep 25th 2010, 14:15
que4dog: re your comments on Ghost ("In the movie, Ghost, Patrick Swayze cannot make contact with Demi Moore because he has to learn how to make physical contact with objects; however, somehow, he can walk on the ground and climb stairs!") - I believe the reason for this is because, like with the door, he simply continued to believe they were solid, so they remained that way. With the door, he had to **stop** believing it was solid but there was no reason for him to do the same with the floors/stairs etc. It sure would have made it easier to get to the fight with Carl at the end if he'd acted like a normal ghost and floated up through the floor, though hey? Hmmm how DID he get up there so fast? :)
Sep 25th 2010, 18:38
Two of those are explained, to varying degrees, within the movie.
No. 17: On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
Blowfeld *does* recognize Bond, but decides not to kill him right away. Partly, this is because he is a Bond villain, and has to set up his elaborate method of killing Bond. More logically, he wants to follow Bond, to see if Bond had any help from within S.P.E.C.T.R.E. After all, it would do him little good to get rid of one pesky spy, only to have another pesky spy take his place.
No. 40: Raiders Of The Lost Ark.
Sallah (John Rhys-Davies) said that the Nazis had "hired" every "strong back" in Egypt to dig every which where in and around the site. So, they were looking for the Ark, but they had no idea where to dig. Then lately, they pulled everyone off the haphazard digs and put them into one massive dig. But, they had bad information, so "they're digging in the wrong spot." Eventually, though, they will realize that they have bad information, and they will go back to digging haphazardly. And at some point, that haphazard digging will let them find the Ark. So, Indy has to remove the Ark before the Nazis get around to digging in the right spot. The only way to prevent the Nazis from getting the Ark is to get it before they do. (Mind you, Indy does underestimate the Nazis. The Nazis do get their hands on the Ark. The real plot hole is, if the Ark can only be used by those who are worthy of it, then the Nazis never stood a chance, and all that work to take it away from them was unnecessary. Or was it? Perhaps it is that effort to keep the unworthy from obtaining the Ark that makes Indy worthy to eventually take it to Washington without getting burnt.)
Sep 25th 2010, 23:15
I have to agree with tobor
Its always bothered me how the goat comes out of a hole in the ground, but when the car goes over the edge, theres a huge drop
Sep 29th 2010, 10:27
Nice work spotting the arbitrary midnight rule in Gremlins.
But how about the fact that they multiply when wet, and it's snowing outside?
Shouldn't the town be waist-deep in Gremlins by dawn?
Oct 6th 2010, 16:01
In Minority Report after all the effort Tom Cruise went to to get his eyes back so that he could enter his old place of work. I wondered why they didn't restrict his access as soon as he became a threat.
If you worjed in Pizza hut I think it would be standard procedure to remove access rights if you started playing up in a Tom Cruise tantrum style, so you'd hope that a security firm investigating future crimes would be a little more prepared against ex-disgruntled employees and have at least some basic procedures in place.
Oct 15th 2010, 18:56
back to LOTR: I disagree that this is a plot hole; getting the eagles to help wouldn't necessarily work. Up until the last minute you'd have ugly Nazgul dragons flying around, and an Eye that would likely see huge eagles flying toward Mordor. Sneaking was better, precious!
Oct 18th 2010, 15:47
Devilangeldude before Vader kills the emperor, the force is leaning heavily in favour of the dark side with the Jedi nearly extinct and a Sith Lord as emperor. There will always be conflict between the light and dark sides and the death of the emperor kickstarts events that will lead to a balance.
Dec 4th 2010, 23:14
With the original Star Wars plot hole that was last on the list, I had my own particular response to that. It's probably just a rationalization I came up with at some point, since I've done no research or anything. But what makes anyone think that they really had any idea that they were chasing down Leia's ship for secret plans before Vader said so? The Empire isn't necessarily big on institutional transparency. I have no problem believing Vader said "Hey, follow that ship" and they just did so no questions asked. In that context, would it matter that during an assault on an enemy ship, an empty escape pod was jettisoned? Weren't droids mostly just helpers who do what people tell them to do? It's like in I-Robot. Everyone was surprised when robots weren't just helpers with no will of their own.
Anyway. That was just my thought on that final one. I had plenty more but I think I've gone on long enough.
Dec 6th 2010, 19:44
I've actually understood that moment differently. Christian Bale didn't create a clone and had never talked with Tesla about creating such a machine at all, he indeed had a twin brother. In his diary Bale had wrote that the word 'Tesla' is only a key of his diary and doesn't have anything to do with his secret. He tricked Hugh Jackman's character by forcing him to go to Tesla. Yes, he told Tesla that Tesla already created a machine for another magician but he was wrong, he thought that Tesla did it, when he never had built anything like that.
Now, about plot hole in prestige, I recently have started to wonder: Jackman's trick in the film was considered better than Bale's because he moved into further distances (to the balcony). Bale had ultimately admitted that he lost. But really, couldn't he do just the same as Jackman did, couldn't his brother appear on the balcony too or even further? Really...
Nov 17th 2011, 16:56
I can explain The Shawshank Redemption. All he had to do was lift the bottom of the poster up and go inside the tunnel. He doesn't have to take down the whole poster.
Nov 29th 2011, 17:20
Here's another Back to the Future plothole: in the 50's, Marty plays Johnny B.Goode which he learned from Chuck Berry. However Chuck Berry hears it from Marty (when Marvin Phones up his cousin Chuck to let him listen to "than new sound you've been looking for"). So who actually wrote Johnny B. Goode? (or am I thinking about it too hard?)
Nov 29th 2011, 17:34
you mean orange's gun is faced on joe. Joe and eddy both are aiming for orange orange is aiming for joe and white who is hiding is aiming at eddy
Dec 25th 2011, 4:27
If you think that was a plot hole in the Matrix than you clearly have never seen or understood the movie.
Aug 22nd 2012, 21:34
In Minority Report, the precogs DO work. The premise is that they can predict future crime. Your claim that they aren't predicting the right crime isn't taking into account that at the time that the predictions happen, the police don't know that the crime is about to happen and therefore have no knowledge to stop it. If the precogs don't predict the murder, then the murder will in fact occur, and therefore the precogs' prediction is true. It is only after the precogs detail the murder can it be stopped, and therefore invalidate their prediction. It's basic cause-and-effect.
Aug 22nd 2012, 22:04
Actually, it appears that in the short story Minority Report is based off of (this got me doing some googling after I posted), the "monitory report" that the precogs have are not the same as explained in the movie. It's not that one precog is" better" than another, but apparently the precogs actually individually predict the crime at different times, and when there is a differing "report", it's actually the precog predicting what will happen after the first precog's prediction changes the outcome of reality. Deep.
Jan 17th 2013, 21:06
In Startrek (2009) if Nero arrives 25 years early: is he so stupid that he doesn't head for Romulus to let them know that the Spock's calculation will be off, and he'll need to leave early to save Romulus.
Jan 17th 2013, 21:11
In The Lost World: Jurassic Park, how does the T-Rex get to the engine room crew - or anyone below decks, where the corridors are far too small for a ten ton lizard to get into?
Jan 17th 2013, 21:33
About your number one plot hole, Star Wars. Does the Imperial Fleet strike you as the kind of place where underlings exercise initiative? If they weren't ordered to blow up every escape pod - even empty ones - they don't blow up empty escape pods. Admiral Ozzel is far more likely to chew them out for wasting "ammo".
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