Oh, I didn’t know what I was doing.

So, there’s often times when you don’t know what you’re doing, when you either get creative or you’re in a kind of a mental bliss where you don’t realise just what the odds are against you.

We had two Belials, one was a very rigid puppet, but I realised I could do stop motion with it, very bad stop motion, but I could still do it.

The other one was more of a hand puppet. I painted a glove red that looked like a tongue and I treated him like a hand puppet.

So there were scenes in the film when he’s in the hotel room, and I am actually stuffed inside the dresser drawer, which was hollow, sticking my hand up with the red glove on it.

I had the puppet sticking up out of the basket making it work, looking through a crack in the dresser drawers and a mirror across the way, so I could see which way I was pointing and what I was doing.

That’s about as home-grown crude at it gets. And I also did the awful stop-motion animation. And that was just terrible.