Star Trek - Best Sci-fi film of the decade!!!

[fortunesfool]

A month or so behind on this one but...


WTF, Total Film!

Did you see any other sci-fi movies in the last deacde? Star Trek was a glorified TV movie, at best. It took, Star Trek, turned it into Star Wars and then dumbed it down to appeal to the lowest common denominator audience. It wasn't even well made, just looked like every other shaky-cam, over edited effort that you get from a TV director who got a lucky break.

Should be ashamed of yourselves for that.

[morris]

WORD.

I mean, c'mon, Zach Quinto was very good, granted and uncannily like the original Spock, fine bit of casting there. But Chris Pine had little screen presence, certainly none of the charm or good looks of the young Shatner and the bits between him and Nimoy Spock were so boring I dozed off.

Also does a lot of sparkly lights all over the screen pass as 'style' these days? I've seen better action on my xmas tree.

Star Trek is an obvious fanboy pick for sci-fi of the year maybe, but best sci-fi of the decade? Does not compute.

[Jonesy]

Totally agree. I found that choice completely bizarre. The film was shockingly awful, and at times, not just awful but boring. But then TF also gave Avatar 5 stars...

[fortunesfool]

At least Avatar is genuinely spectacular and made by someone who understands what to do with a camera.

Star Trek looks like they just gave a monkey a camera and left an editor to sort it out/disguise it with lens flares.

[MrSilly]

Pitch Black.

[nathanjrb]

Thought it was brilliant tbh.

The story was fast paced throughout the ENTIRE film and you were with it all the way, I have no idea how you could call it boring, seriously, you must have been watching a different film.

Don't forget Star Trek was a dying franchise they had to re-do it and make it less geeky - cos let's face it, it was really geeky.

I'm a massive trekky and think Abrams did it really well - it appealed to EVERYONE whether they had watched Star Trek or not. I've forced many people to watch it and at first they've been like "Uhh Star Trek... only nerds and geeks watch that, how can it be any good" and boy were they in for a surprise - they loved it.

I'm clueless as to how you think Pine lacked Shatners charm and good looks - look back on Shatner from the early days and you'll see a pot bellied pig that only got worse as the years went by.

You're all also neglecting that fact that Shatner played a fully established Captain. Pine was the BIRTH of Kirk - are you forgetting the fantastic moment where he's in the bar at the start:

"I think you're forgetting something, but there's four of us and only one of you."
"So come back with some more men and then it'll be an even fight."

He was tough and, whilst a little arrogant, he didn't look before he leaped. NO this isn't Kirk we know but it's something called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! Also the 'presence' you said he was lacking - don't forget that this is a film about ALL the characters, not just Kirk so there had to be an even spread of them all. It was good to learn a little bit more about the character's pasts. Less Kirk was a good thing!

Avatar was a heap of **** in comparison. Give a man with a camera 'who knows how to use it' and he'll take lots of pretty pictures and neglect the story entirely, which is exactly what happened. The camera work and special effects in the new film gave Star Trek a sense of realism that it had never had before - remember the days of the naff special effects? It showed space for the true disorientating and topsyturvy world that it is, and it did it fantastically.

Abrams COMPLETELY reworked Star Trek, and it needed it.

Sci-fi of the year, easily.

[nathanjrb]

Ohh, not so sure about decade though.

Name a better one and I'll consider it.

[Jonesy]

Originally Posted by nathanjrb

I have no idea how you could call it boring, seriously, you must have been watching a different film.

Nope. Same boring boring film.

Originally Posted by nathanjrb

it appealed to EVERYONE whether they had watched Star Trek or not.

EVERYONE? Goodness me, I must have misread the posts above from people who didn't like it. Silly me.

Originally Posted by nathanjrb

I'm clueless as to how you think Pine lacked Shatners charm and good looks - look back on Shatner from the early days and you'll see a pot bellied pig that only got worse as the years went by.

Shatner was a good looking lad in those early years. Pine thinks he has charm, but unfortuntely, he's deluded.

I was going to answer the rest of your post, but I lost the will to live half way through. You obviously adore Pine, so who am I to challenge that love. And no, I'm not a fan of Avatar either. Star Trek was just a lot of flashing lights, an unadventurous story-line, and disappointing characterisations. You fell for the Abram's trick of shining fairylights into the camera in the hope that people would think it was outer space.

[nathanjrb]

Originally Posted by Jonesy

Nope. Same boring boring film.



EVERYONE? Goodness me, I must have misread the posts above from people who didn't like it. Silly me.

I didn't realise the people above the post was EVERYONE.

Originally Posted by Jonesy

Shatner was a good looking lad in those early years. Pine thinks he has charm, but unfortuntely, he's deluded.

Who would you rather have then?!

Originally Posted by Jonesy

I was going to answer the rest of your post, but I lost the will to live half way through. You obviously adore Pine, so who am I to challenge that love. And no, I'm not a fan of Avatar either. Star Trek was just a lot of flashing lights, an unadventurous story-line, and disappointing characterisations. You fell for the Abram's trick of shining fairylights into the camera in the hope that people would think it was outer space.

Disappointing characterisations?! He had to WORK with the old ones from all the old series - the whole point was that the characters where the SAME, which was achieved - by what someone mentioned earlier - by clever casting.

Quinto, the dude who played bones was pretty much the SAME GUY reincarnated, Cho as Sulu and some spotty freak as Chekhov. How were they dissapointing?! The only one you could argue was Pegg as Scotty, and I must admit I didn't think he was right for the role. But I think Pine was great for the young Kirk tbh.
But let me get this straight - you call stopping a giant spaceship from imploding planets, giant alien monsters, fights on an unstable platform suspended miles above the ground, shagging green women and leaping out of a speeding car just before it flies of a cliff - unadventurous?!

Christ, I'd hate to be around on one of your adventures.

How the hell else would you make a spaceship that can travel faster than the speed of light look cool?! FAIRY LIGHTS. Or was he supposed to use the multi-million pound budget on overpaid mainstream actors and just represent the Enterprise with a cleverly crafted cereal box on a zip slide?!

[Jonesy]

Calm down. The over use of exclamation marks doesn't make an argument any more convincing.