Prometheus

[TheGuyver]

Originally Posted by morris

Really, Guyver? You not even curious?

With a film this big, this significant, I must view it for myself. Not that I don't trust your opinions, but I have to see it.
I'm sure it will look very stunning on the IMAX screen and tbh I don't get out enough, so I'm still looking forward to Thursday. And I'm not just saying that. But I'm no longer hoping for a perfect film. A bad screenplay and script is no joke.

I'm not ruining the alien films. I ruined star wars by watching the prequels. I will not let the Alien films be ruined

[fortunesfool]

Right, I've calmed down a little now. It's still an awful film though.

Fassbender is brilliant as ever. There are a couple of moments where the film starts cooking with gas, only for Lindelof to burn everything to a crisp in the next scene. Huge dramatic moments barely register, and the crew simply move onto the next bit of business like nothing even happened.

The space jockey stuff (The Engineer now) is beyond lame.

Oh yeah, the ending is a shocker. Not in a scary kinda way, just appalling and utterly nonsensical.

All the characters are stupid and do really stupid things despite the fact that they're supposed to be intelligent scientists. Rafe Spall's character especially beggars belief and the least said about any of them still believing in 'creationism' the better.

Oh, and i'll give a fiver to anyone who yells out 'Just run to the side you silly bitch' at Charlize Theron. You'll know when.



*possible spoiler*




Fucking Damon Lindelof cramming his bloody religious views into the movie, and fucking it up in the process (yes, it's the end of Lost again). Maybe I read too much into it, but guess who survives - The Creationist or the Darwinist? And the final 'in the year of our Lord' line...




*unspoiler*

[morris]

I've seen trailers, teasers and TV specials and the dialogue does sound ropey.
Here's a question for you, Fortunes. Comparing to the other alien films in quality, where would you put it? Better than Resurrection I hope.

@Guyver. I will always check out the important films of a year, good, bad or otherwise. I have to know what I'm talking about.

[fortunesfool]

Originally Posted by morris

Here's a question for you, Fortunes. Comparing to the other alien films in quality, where would you put it? Better than Resurrection, I hope.

Um. On a par with Resurrection. Funnily enough, Prometheus has a stupid monster at the end and a cool bit with a basketball too. At least Rez has a central idea and follows it through, for better or worse. Prometheus tries to juggle a dozen central ideas, drops them all, loses some, forgets what it was supposed to be doing and then kicks its last idea about like a little kid kicking a tin can about on his way home from school. Then chucks it in the bin.

I left Alien:Rez and shrugged. It was about as enjoyable as you would expect from the people involved I left Prometheus angry and appalled that the people involved were capable of such banality.

[jaykays hat]

I make it the worst Alien film out of all of them, yes even worse than Alien Resurrection.

I'm watching Alien on C4 at the moment just to get the nasty taste of Prometheus out of my mouth.

Spoiler coming up

They have just discovered the space jockey in Alien and its still in its protective suit sat in the chair but it is out of the suit at the end of Prometheus????

[fortunesfool]

I think that's a different one in Alien. In Promethe-arse they are on LV-422.

That just raises another batch of questions that wont get answered though.

[morris]

Originally Posted by fortunesfool

All the characters are stupid and do really stupid things despite the fact that they're supposed to be intelligent scientists.

Yes I've already gathered that the characters aren't too smart from a tv special I saw.
David the synthetic person is pressing code into a thingy, Elizabeth asks him what he's doing, he says he's opening the door. "But we don't know what's on the other side."
David (as door opens): "Oops."

That makes me angry. I'd have given him a right royal bollocking at that point about who's in charge. I don't know what happens - don't tell me, but that's annoying from the go-get.
I can abide many things but stupid behaviour from supposedly intelligent people makes me tear my fur out.

[Zippykins1]

Originally Posted by fortunesfool

All the characters are stupid and do really stupid things despite the fact that they're supposed to be intelligent scientists. Rafe Spall's character especially beggars belief and the least said about any of them still believing in 'creationism' the better.

That was my biggest problem with it, that they mostly come across as idiots. I don't have any particularly strong love for the Alien franchise, and I was largely intending to judge this in its own right, and based on that, as an action/sci-fi film it's ok.

The good:

Fassbender - his character, motivations and actions are the highlight of the film. And he finally manages to turn in a performance where his Irish accent doesn't come through - hallelujah!

Idris Elba.

Some moments of tension and exciting action.

The bad:

The storyline. I just started losing interest. I know exactly when this happens inn a film when I start looking at and consdering things like the characters hairstyles and make up. (I'm sure the films hairstylists wouldn't mind )

Predictability. Some stuff that I think you were meant to be "oh wow" about were way too obvious.

Kate Dickie - hmm, just came across as really bad acting to me.

[fortunesfool]

Pay attention to Sean Harris's character. He's the psycho, ginger mohican-ed mercenary.

First scene he's all snarly and attitudy with 'I'm not here to be your friend, i'm just here for the money'.

Ok. Not sure why he was invited along.

Next scene he's all attitudy but helpful tech guy with his little 'mapping orb things' which send a real time signal back to the ship to build a 3D map of the area they're exploring as well as giving him direct access to atmospherics etc.

Then he's jumping around and screaming like a teen girl in a slasher flick cause they find a scary thing. I'm just a geologist he tells us "I love Rocks' (seriously. That's his actual dialogue). He's a geologist now? A mercenary geologist whose just there for the money. Eh? A geologist who visits an alien planet no other human being has set foot on and doesn't make the slightest effort to collect, or get remotely interested in, any of the local rocks.

Then him and Rafe Spall get lost (remember the mapping things he just had that were sending a real time feed back to ship and directly to him....He clearly hasn't)

Then he and Rafe Spall find a gribbly penis worm thing. Spall approaches it as if it were a little puppy. At this point i'm wondering if Spall has been invited along as the ships moron, or is just there as a favour to someone. Things go bad.

When Harris re-appears later (No one seems that bothered that they're missing), there's a bit of flamethrowery, shooting business and then it never gets mentioned again.

And that's just one of the secondary characters.

[dex2010]

its shit! The acting apart from fassbender and rapace reminded me of the idiots from alien vs predator. The ending is laughable.The alien/creature is just boring and not one bit scary.Its hard to find anything good to say about this movie. FORGETTABLE!