Karen Allen talks Indiana Jones 5

“It’s in George’s hands!”

After the debacle that was Crystal Skull, demand for a fifth Indiana Jones film must be close to an all-time low, and yet the issue keeps being mooted, this time by star Karen Allen.

According to Allen, it sounds as though the majority of the film’s key players are all raring to go once more, with everybody waiting on George Lucas to pull the trigger.

“I would,” she replied when asked whether she’d be up for another Indy film. “And I, in fact, just talked with Steven Spielberg recently - we e-mailed back and forth, and I said, ‘What should I say? I’m doing this publicity, what should I say if people ask me that question?’"

“He said, ‘It’s in George’s hands! I’m game, Harrison’s game, and now it’s up to George to write the script or to get the script organized, and the story.’ They want to do a fifth, from what I understand, but they don’t want to do it just to do it, they want to do it if they can come up with a story that everybody is happy with and that everybody likes.”

Easier said than done, if the last one is anything to go by. Still, it sounds like there might be some life in the old dog yet… direct your anger to the comments board, below!

Would you be open to a fifth film? Tell us, below!

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    • ChrisWootton

      Sep 20th 2012, 12:02

      4 words to fill you with dread.. It's in George's hands!

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    • mattburgess

      Sep 20th 2012, 12:21

      George Lucas should NOT write the script. Get a Frank Darabont, or a David Koepp, or even a Jonathan Nolan (I'd be interested to see what he comes up with), but don't let George near that script!! Other than the fact that he came up with Indiana Jones in the first place, I don't see that he should be involved at all. I'd LOVE to see Indiana Jones 5, but made by Spielberg alone.

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    • ilikescifi

      Sep 20th 2012, 12:33

      Good or bad, I'll keep watching. Take my money now.

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    • apo1978

      Sep 20th 2012, 12:35

      Enough with the Skull hate......please. It was hardly a "debacle". There are far more deserving films of hatred. It seems as if its now "cool" to hate Skull to mitigate a fear of being in the minoriyy. It was fun, simple as.

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    • SiMan

      Sep 20th 2012, 12:43

      I'd watch another one and i agree that Skull maybe is a little too harshly derided, but i think that it says more for the quality of the original trilogy. It's like Temple of Doom being considered the weaker of the first 3, yet it is still one of the greatest adventure movies of all time and is better than most other entries in that genre. Did George acually write any of the first 3 though? I pretty sure he didn't, only came up with the general stories. Can they not get any of the original writers back again?

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    • dangoodfellow

      Sep 20th 2012, 12:44

      i just can't get with the fashion for hating Crystal Skull. Compared to the fatwah inspiring rage that the Star Wars prequels inspired in me, Indy 4 was great. comparing it to the others , i think it stands up fine too . Karen Allen versus screaming woman from tem[ple of doom?. Shia Lebouf versus 'okey dokey Dr Jones'? animated monkeys versus double agent Nazi Gibbon? ancient mayan space alien flying saucer versus 'jehovahs indiscriminate face melting hit squad?' 1950s lead lined fridge nukathon, versus holding your breath whilst tied to a submarine for days? And don't get me started on being dragged behind a truck on your testicles, or mumbling ancient knights without a lot to do.. Crystal Skull seemed like another great Indy film to me, imperfect, ludicrous and a right laugh. i look forward to number 5

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    • Hadouken76

      Sep 20th 2012, 13:13

      The thing about the non-Crystal skulls films was yes they were improbable, but only because it was escapist entertainment, reminiscent of old fashioned Hollywood. What made them stand out, was the streamline narrative.. (ie Raiders Tomb of snakes > Plane fight > truck chase), and the smart writing (Lawrence Kasdan). Also, you could see the hard work that went into it, the stunt choreography, the hands on special effects, the tomb of snakes was full of REAL SNAKES. Crystal Skulls was just LAZY, LAZY, LAZY. The writing and 'story' took a backseat to the CGI Prarie dog, CGI magnetic dust, CGI rocket thingy, CGI atom blast, CGI snake, CGI jungle, CGI mountain , CGI monkeys, CGI ants, CGI aliens, CGI Spaceship. The spiky sarcastic chemistry between Marion and Indy was gone. Winstones dialogue mostly consisted of "Jonesy!". Shia LaBeouf became the Jar Jar of Indy franchise. According to Spielberg, Lucas vetoed Frank Darabonts Indy script in favour of his. the same script Spielberg thought of as 'wonderful' which just goes to show Lucas is a money-grubbing, idle producer, spending his tainted legacy finding ways to milk past glories.

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    • JohnJDuffy

      Sep 20th 2012, 13:16

      God please no

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    • ChrisWootton

      Sep 20th 2012, 13:56

      I'm tired of saying why Skulls was so s**t.. so I'm just going to agree wholeheartedly with Hadouken

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    • Kajsmir

      Sep 20th 2012, 14:13

      Lucas didn't write the screenplay for The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, David Koepp did... Lucas came up with the idea though. Just saying.

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    • pdacoakley

      Sep 20th 2012, 14:17

      Where the first three films had heart #4 just had CGI

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    • 2Dglasses

      Sep 20th 2012, 14:52

      Would everyone stop classing dislike of something as "hate"? If you liked it fine, those of us who dont are not being paid by competitors to badmouth it, we just thought it was not good enough. Yes, the bit about the submarine kinda gets me now, but its still not as bad as the fridge. Aliens is in the same category as magic arks and holy grails-supernatural, but makes sense within the films environment. We know full well that fridges dont survive massive nuclear blasts,so it was all an excuse for some CGI then. Here's a wild idea. Take the projected budget, then cut it in half. Then you might lose the CGI and somewhere find some of the magic that made indy shooting the swordsman so enjoyable...maybe if shia labeuof had just punched cate blanchett in the face i might have laughed, albeit less than i did when he swung with apes...somewhow..

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    • dex2010

      Sep 20th 2012, 16:14

      I want another one, to see one of the best characters of all time off properly. Give it the ending it deserves this time.

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    • thedanieljson

      Sep 20th 2012, 16:18

      George Lucas has lost it. HE'S LOST IT. Everyone knows that he was the main problem with the last film, as with every other film he's made more recently. Skull was on TV the other day, and it really IS woeful. It's not funny, it's not exciting enough to be escapist, there's no grit in it, no sense of danger, and it's oddly directed as if it's a young children's TV show. The faults are endless.

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    • SiMan

      Sep 20th 2012, 16:35

      There was nothing to say the sub actually submerged. It could have stayed above water for the short trip to the island. I don't know why you wouldn't travel underwater in a sub, but I'm not a Bazi so don't know what goes through their minds.

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    • ANPCooper

      Sep 20th 2012, 16:39

      NNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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    • funkdvoid

      Sep 20th 2012, 17:33

      I will not stand for this, Mr Lucas you cannot continually ruin my sacred childhood memories time after time and expect to get away with it! Im not sure Harrison can save your a*s this time, he dutifully tried to carry the CGI debacle that was Skull but there were too many jarring factors that whisked us out of the movie on numerous, embarrassing occasions. STOP WRITING SCRIPTS.

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    • SiMan

      Sep 20th 2012, 17:56

      ** i meant Nazi! (thats what happens when you post comments via i-phone while travelling on the train!)

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    • Ali1748

      Sep 20th 2012, 18:13

      ‘It’s in George’s hands!" and that my friends is the sound of millions of fans across the world groaning with disdain.

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    • AlfredsDream098

      Sep 20th 2012, 20:56

      Wyatt leaving Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Indy 5 in George Lucas's hands...OH GOD!

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    • DomCobb

      Sep 20th 2012, 20:57

      Stop it with the Indy 4 hate. It was a fun film. Good entertainment. It was Indiana Jones, and in my book, that's worth something. KOTCS was the best adventure film since 1989. I think it is easy to forget just how masterful Raiders and Crusade really are. So you know what? Bring on number five!

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    • 2Dglasses

      Sep 20th 2012, 21:13

      @SiMan. I know-technically you dont see it go under...they may have gotten away with it if they'd at least showed the island to be much nearer, but they showed the map and even hanging to the outside would have taken something like 3 days. But i overlook that because the rest was great. @DomCobb. Again-"Hate"..i think people have been very clear on why they didnt like Indy 4, just accept it. No great or terrible 5th film (and i still kinda want a 5th) will stop the criticism of a substandard #4 being valid. I'd still watch indy 1-3 over any tomb raider or national treasure/da vinci code. The same isnt true of 4. Read what people are saying-the CGI ruined it.

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    • romaniagigantor

      Sep 20th 2012, 21:15

      Personally, I want a fifth Indiana Jones movie for a variety of reasons. 1st. I will watch a new Indiana Jones movie. Period. It's INDIANA JONES, and no number of alien ships can ruin that. 2nd. I want Indiana Jones to redeem itself. The entire series. The 4th was not a bad movie, it was a great, rollicking ride, BUT it needed to be a CLASSIC Indiana Jones movie, not a updated movie. So having a fifth movie that goes back to the things that made Indiana Jones movies so special, that can redeem the series. 3rd. I want the series to end in a way that's truly a beautiful ending for the entire series.

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    • aidanwilliams

      Sep 20th 2012, 21:29

      I would like to see a another Indy film and i loved the last film despite how much money it made at the box office.

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    • Ali1748

      Sep 21st 2012, 2:24

      Like I've said before I'd be fine with Indy V as long as it was just Harrison Ford and Steven Spielberg. And perhaps Davies.

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    • Chufferstud

      Sep 21st 2012, 8:18

      I had the misfortune of turning over the TV to catch a section of Crystal Skull a few weeks back. It was the scene where they were in a boat and fell down three consecutive waterfalls. Now I appreciate that you have to have some creative freedom to make something exciting, but for eveyone to survive one fall and remain in the boat is remarkable, to do it twice is beyond pure luck, but to fall out of the boat on the third and just by chance no-one hits a rock or drown is just too much. To top it off, they look up and see a face shaped rock with a waterfall coming out it's eye and summise that this is the entrance they need to get to...cut to them in the cave...no shots of them climbing this impossible rockface with a torrant of water coming down on them. This is only one example of why this film is a shoddy piece of movie-making and nearly destroyed the memory of what a great man Indiana Jones is/was. But that is only an opinion of course, which I am entitled to, before I get lambasted :)

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    • BobbyTwoTimes

      Sep 21st 2012, 8:58

      Chuffer - I completely agree. Skull just further highlighted to me me how far away from the creators of the originals Spielberg and Lucas have become. When they made both the Star Wars and Indy films, they were young, creative, working to a budget (especially Lucas on Star Wars), had proper stunts, used real sets - everything that contributed to them becoming the brilliant films that they were. Spielberg - in my opinion - has not made a bonafide classic since Saving Private Ryan in '98. Plenty of 4 star films sure (War Of The Worlds, Minority Report) but nothing on the scale of E.T, Raiders, Jaws or Third Kind. And Lucas......well he's just turned every 'project' he's laid his greedy little fingers on into a cartoonish, badly acted, terribly written pile of cr4p!

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    • dangoodfellow

      Sep 21st 2012, 10:25

      ...okay CGI versus black marker outlined fighter planes, table top underground floods, and a shoddy wax work Alfred Molina. Ray Winstons 'cor blimey guvn'r' versus Denholm Elliots unfortunately lobotomised 'follow me , i know the way' shenanigans. my point is that the new 21st century imperfections of crystal skull are simply in the tradition of the Indy movies. I watched Raiders when i was six sat on my Dads knee because the cinema only had one empty seat left, believe me i treasure the Indy movies as a part of my childhood. there's no way any movie could reach me quite like that anymore because i have an adults sensibilities and discernment, the best i could hope for was a few more hours of Indy running up and down shouting and fighting in implausible situations, executing impossible escapes and generally enterrtaining the hell out of me. Oh and it had Jim out of neighbours in it too.

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    • Chufferstud

      Sep 21st 2012, 10:45

      I think the underlying fact of it all is, Crystal Skull should never have been made. There wasn't a real need and handing the baton over to LaBeouf's character didn't work. But I'm sure I'll still pay to see Indy 5 for nostalgia purposes.

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    • FBPBoland

      Sep 21st 2012, 10:45

      I love the quote in this article: "with everybody waiting on George Lucas to pull the trigger". I am also waiting for George Lucas to pull the trigger. Hopefully on himself before he makes anymore of these films.

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    • Hotspur1882

      Sep 21st 2012, 11:16

      The problem I think with Lucas and Spielberg is that they have embraced CGI like a ravenous, malnourished vampire in a blood bank and over indulged themselves in it. Scripts from them seem to be more focused on what CGI can bring to the story rather than what good writing and story telling can. They seem to have forgotten what it is to make movies in the old school way, unlike say Christopher Nolan and Duncan Jones, two directors that really excite me because of their approach to making movies. M Night Shyamlan is another director (who once was linked with Indy IV) that has, in my opinion, become (rightly?) much maligned because he too adjusted his approach to making great films to suit the spectacle rather than the need to tell a great story within the constraints of "real world" possibilities. I would love to see an Indy V if only to hopefully redeem the franchise from the shockingly under par Crystal Skull. But if Lucas and Spielberg do not get back to basics and create a movie in the same way Raiders, Temple, and Crusade were created then I think they shouldn't even bother.

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    • stuxmusic

      Sep 21st 2012, 13:08

      *cough* Atlantis *cough* Make it fun, make it not rely on special effects, make it not have something as ridiculous as aliens, (I'm still convincing myself that wasn't aliens, but just some us experiment.) make it not get sidetracked from the story (nuke the fridge!), most of all, DO IT SOON. I had a hard enough time believing Ford wasn't going to break his hip doing the stuff he was doing in crystal skull. But yeah... keep it away from George. maybe give him a producer credit, but give the writing duties over to someone else. Maybe the Tintin triple header of Moffat, Wright and Cornish?

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    • FBGRees

      Sep 23rd 2012, 13:44

      if we waiting for george then then we'll be waitng a long time , since he's gone into retierment as far films are concerned, just get a different writer theres plenty ofgreat writers out there . just keep the elements that made the first 3 great real stunts fun charatars of the old matinee form witch the formula was based .

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    • tomevans

      Oct 6th 2012, 0:12

      NOOOOOoooooooooo please god noooooo, George Lucas, please you have enough money, you ruined Star Wars by making three pointless movies which were just glorified adverts to sell toys and merchandise, please stop ruining these classics too!!! I honestly cant believe that during the entire movie making process of Indiana Jones 4 not a single person went, "hang on, isn't having Shia LeBeouf (who is just awful by the way) swinging like a monkey through the trees a really really c**p idea!!" Why did no one through the whole script writing and editing sections go "you know, I dont think hiding in a fridge (even if its got magical lead lining) would help Indy survive a nuclear explosion!). You might as well call it Indiana Jones 5:Indy meets Jar Jar Binks and get it over with.

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    • damianhuntley

      Oct 10th 2012, 23:20

      I enjoyed the Crystal Skull probably a bit more than I enjoy Temple of Doom, and as much as the Last Crusade. The fridge didn't bother me, I laughed, probably as much as I was expected to and I felt a little melancholic at the thought of Indy with radiation poisoning. The animated ants and Shia LaBeouf were probably my only gripes with the film overall, but then there have been things that bothered me in Last Crusade (rapid ageing shot) and Temple of Doom (bats by the camp fire). I think it would be a shame if Indy 5 doesn't get made due to lack of enthusiasm from cinema goers; if the film makers had felt that Indy 5 was a natural breaking off point, I would feel differently but they obviously kicked off again with the idea in mind that they could make more than one. There are so many ancient myths that could be tapped still and ways for the character to be pulled about that could be less physical but more treacherous psychologically or emotionally. Some of the most dramatic scenes in the Indy films happened when Indy was somehow incapacitated, fist fights and whip swinging were fun and exciting but I was more concerned for the character when there was an emotional aspect to the danger. Poisoned dates are almost as nerve racking as a hulking skin head Nazi boxer, almost evil Indy in Temple of Doom was pretty traumatic stuff when I was a kid. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed and browsing for mentions of Indy 5 until there's real news, good or bad.

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    • jhonny84

      Oct 13th 2012, 16:11

      follow me on facebook and vote to bring indy to the big screen in indy 5 and we also want harriso ford back

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    • jhonny84

      Oct 13th 2012, 16:14

      its under we want indiana jones movie on facebook follow me

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    • jhonny84

      Oct 13th 2012, 16:15

      we want indiana jones 5 movie follow me on facebook

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    • jhonny84

      Oct 13th 2012, 16:15

      getting voting

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    • stevekelly

      Nov 9th 2012, 8:06

      George is a Tolkien of our time, a great creator who has literally changed the face of cinema. I've loved every Indy; and look forward to whatever we are lucky enough to receive. I have to say, it takes a fool to gripe angrily about the best films we could have ever hoped to see... The whole crew has brought us some of the finest entertainment to ever hit the big screen. So shut up and quit yer belly aching; or you can pay twice!

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    • johnpickering

      Dec 3rd 2012, 15:20

      When i first heard that Kingdom of the Crystal skull was being made i was like a kid in a candy store. After waiting a few years it was finally released, after watching it i went to drown my sorrows. I felt as if someone i knew had died. The problem i have isnt just with George Lucas but its with the entire movie industry. Why remake or sequel classics? If you cant deliver to the same level as the originals you shouldnt bother! Ive almost got to the point now where i dont bother with big budget movies. I want great character led movies delivered via good storytelling with good effects. I hate all this over the top CGI cr4p. For gods sake please sort it out especially if you intend to make Indy V

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    • marksanders

      Jan 8th 2013, 18:03

      Lucasfilm do the Indy game and comic story 'The Fate of Atlantis' do it right and all is forgiven..

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    • tobywan4

      Sep 23rd 2013, 20:27

      To all you nay Sayers; you'll go and see it, stop pretending you have a clue about making films and put your dummies back in. It's one of the most cherished, fun, undeniably entertaining characters and has been consistently great. Skulls was a fun film and you all secretly loved seeing Indy kick a**e and you will again...baby's ...

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